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SqueezePlay
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elziko
2008-09-25 09:20:13 UTC
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Is there an ETA for when SqueezePlay will be included in the 7.3
nightlies?

Thanks!


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Michael Herger
2008-09-25 11:08:33 UTC
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> Is there an ETA for when SqueezePlay will be included in the 7.3
> nightlies?

It should already be available as a separate download:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/latest/7.3/

Well, should. Today's build didn't make it, but yesterday there was:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/SqueezeCenter_7.3_trunk_v2008-09-24/

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elziko
2008-09-25 11:42:59 UTC
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Thanks - I wasn't expecting to see a standalone - so I missed it!


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oreillymj
2008-09-25 12:48:52 UTC
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I just installed Squeezeplay on Windows.

Some feedback...

The right mouse button should work as the "Back" arrow button on the
Jive remote. It's easy to go into a menu with no way back out without
resorting to the cursor keys on the keyboard. So right clicking should
bring me back "up" through the menu structure towards home.

Fans of single button mice on the Mac are SOL.


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Paul_B
2008-09-25 13:13:35 UTC
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I've also had a quick play on Windows Vista Ultimate and discovered you
need to right click and run as administrator otherwise you get an error


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oreillymj
2008-09-25 14:22:39 UTC
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Sorry to turn this into some sort of bug reporting thread, but I've
noticed that Squeezeplay's audio will occasionally stutter when I'm
performing scrolling in Firefox. I may peg the CPU for a 1 or 2
seconds, but it's enough to cause a stutter. I fixed this by changing
the priority of the Squeezeplay process up to RealTime.

However this is risky, as I wouldn't be able to kill the process if it
locked up.

Also, for some reason Squeezeplay has inherited the same stutter 10
seconds from the end of each song that Softsqueeze has had for some
time now.

Softsqueeze used to play fine, but it now stutters to the point that I
no longer use it.

Squeezeplay also consistently stutters 10seconds from the end of each
track. I'm guessing that it's caused by the app pulling in data from
the next track.


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Paul Webster
2008-09-25 20:35:30 UTC
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Paul_B;343982 Wrote:
> I've also had a quick play on Windows Vista Ultimate and discovered you
> need to right click and run as administrator otherwise you get an error

Tried here on Vista Home ... crashes in MS VC unless I "run as
Administrator".
Crash is as follows:
> Problem Event Name: BEX
> Application Name: squeezeplay.exe
> Application Version: 1.0.0.1
> Application Timestamp: 48dba49c
> Fault Module Name: MSVCR90.dll
> Fault Module Version: 9.0.21022.8
> Fault Module Timestamp: 47313dce
> Exception Offset: 0006795a
> Exception Code: c0000417
> Exception Data: 00000000
> OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
> Locale ID: 2057
> Additional Information 1: 8e84
> Additional Information 2: 99b8bbe6f14f5896a34b2c627798fdb2
> Additional Information 3: c7b2
> Additional Information 4: 0e58871707a952476f5b6cb186379ece
>


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MeSue
2008-09-26 00:58:55 UTC
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I figured out the arrows and home, but can anyone summarize the keyboard
equivalent to the rest of the buttons (volume, add, play, etc.)?


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bklaas
2008-09-26 04:35:18 UTC
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MeSue;344197 Wrote:
> I figured out the arrows and home, but can anyone summarize the keyboard
> equivalent to the rest of the buttons (volume, add, play, etc.)?

here ya be-
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Developers_FAQ

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ant.perry
2008-10-24 12:01:40 UTC
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Hi

Have recently downloaded squeezeplay for windows XP. Overall it works
well except I dont get any of the keyboard shortcuts. The mouse works
okay, as do the cursor keys, but none of the qwerty keys.

I am running squeezecenter and squeezeplay from Oct 23.
So squeezecenter is 7.3 - 23662
and squeezeplay is 7.0.1r1
squeezecenter is running on a freenas box

Any thoughts?


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MBSqueeze
2008-10-24 13:47:59 UTC
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Hi Ben,

SP works well with mp3s, but nothing for wma files. Will this be ironed
out soon? great software BTW ... particularly the playback on the
controller !!!

Thanks,
Mark


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autopilot
2008-10-25 10:43:05 UTC
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I used Squeezeplay on my PC for the first time today. After playing
around for a couple of hours i starting to wonder exactly what the
design brief is here? It's basically just the controller on my PC - but
why would i want that? It's a great on the SBC, but it's menu structure
and UI seems really really strange for a desktop app - very clunky,
partly because it's primary aim is controlling players. That not what i
want on my PC, i want a player like Softwqueeze is (the the ability to
controller players too). So where is this going? I'm finding it very
strange, it all seems the wrong way around and i just dont get it
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andynormancx
2008-10-25 13:05:29 UTC
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autopilot;353243 Wrote:
> It's a great on the SBC, but it's menu structure and UI seems really
> really strange for a desktop app - very clunky, partly because it's
> primary aim is controlling players. That not what i want on my PC, i
> want a player like Softsqueeze is (plus the ability to controller
> players too). So where is this going? I'm finding it very strange, it
> all seems the wrong way around and i just dont get it sorry!
In what fundamental way is the Squeezeplay UI not like Softsqueeze ?
Despite the different look the memory structure is much the same.

I do think that Squeezeplay needs a panel like the remote on
Softsqueeze, so that you have quick mouse access to the volume and
transport buttons.


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andynormancx;353281 Wrote:
> In what fundamental way is the Squeezeplay UI not like Softsqueeze ?
> Despite the different look the memory structure is much the same.
>

No, it's fundamentally different. I dont know how to really explain
this but i will try again; My Controller is a controller - it controls
the players in my house. It also plays music now, but thats not it
primary function (at least not what it's UI). What i want on my PC's,
like Softsqueeze, is a player - not a Controller (which has the ability
to act as a player). The SBc is a Controller, the SB3 is a player. I
want a player on my PC, like Softsqueeze was. Squeezeplay is apparently
replacing Softsqueeze. is it a player that can controller your SB's, or
is it a Control app that can play music? Is anyone getting me here? Am
i making sense? May it's just a case of getting the UI, but this UI is
miles from where it should be.

andynormancx;353281 Wrote:
>
> I do think that Squeezeplay needs a panel like the remote on
> Softsqueeze, so that you have quick mouse access to the volume and
> transport buttons.

Yes, transport buttons would be great, in fact essential as the SBc has
them, they are badly needed here.

Sorry to the developers, im not trying to be too critical - just one
users perspective


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andynormancx
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autopilot;353743 Wrote:
> No, it's fundamentally different. I dont know how to really explain this
> but i will try again; My Controller is a controller - it controls the
> players in my house. It also plays music now, but thats not it primary
> function (at least not it's UI). What i want on my PC's, like
> Softsqueeze, is a player - not a Controller (which has happens to have
> the ability to act as a player too). Squeezeplay is apparently
> replacing Softsqueeze. So is it a player that can controller your SB's,
> or is it a Control app that can play music? Is anyone getting me here?
> Am i making sense? Maybe it's just a case of getting the UI right, but
> this UI is miles from where it should be IMO.
>
But SqueezePlay is just as much a player as SoftSqueeze. I can't see
(apart from the transport buttons issue) what could be done to make it
more of a player than it is.

>From a player point of view, from my experience SS works pretty much
identically to SP.

In SS if I want to listen to an album, I:

- navigate to Music Library
- navigate to Albums
- scroll down to the album I want
- hit Play on the remote (or hit the plus button to add to the current
playlist)

On SP, I:

- navigate to Music Library
- navigate to Albums
- scroll down to the album I want
- hit "Play all" with the mouse or press the right arrow key (or hit
the "A" to add to the current playlist)

If I want to listen to the radio on SS, I:

- navigate to Internet Radio
- navigate to the Radio station I want
- hit "Play" on the remote

If I want to listen to the radio on SP, I:

- navigate to Internet Radio
- navigate to the Radio station I want
- hit "Play" with the mouse or press the right arrow key

I'm not trying to be awkward, I just don't see where the fundamental
differences are ? For most of the navigation even the keystrokes are
the same. Or is it selecting SP as a player at the beginning of the
process that makes it different ?


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lrossouw
2008-10-26 23:06:08 UTC
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andynormancx;353761 Wrote:
> But SqueezePlay is just as much a player as SoftSqueeze. I can't see
> (apart from the transport buttons issue) what could be done to make it
> more of a player than it is.
>

I think squeezeplay would be great as a replacement to softsqueeze.
SoftSqueeze was great as a product tester, but is not really what I
have in mind when listening to music on my pc.

SqueezePlay could however act more like a PC app, for example allowing
use of the keyboard when browsing music (e.g. pressing u takes you to
the first artist starting with u or u2 if you are me). Also search by
typing in. Using the scrolly text input stuff seems a bit silly if you
have a keyboard.


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JJZolx
2008-10-26 23:17:06 UTC
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lrossouw;353764 Wrote:
> SqueezePlay could however act more like a PC app, for example allowing
> use of the keyboard when browsing music (e.g. pressing u takes you to
> the first artist starting with u or u2 if you are me). Also search by
> typing in. Using the scrolly text input stuff seems a bit silly if you
> have a keyboard.

If your goal is to create a desktop application, why would you want it
to look or behave _anything_ like the restricted interface on the
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Hopscotch
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JJZolx;353766 Wrote:
> If your goal is to create a desktop application, why would you want it
> to look or behave _anything_ like the restricted interface on the
> controller?

I've just installed SqueezePlay to check it out. I love my Duet, it is
a fabulous unit, it has genuinely freed my music and has been my
favorite appliance since its purchase (if a little fiddly to set up).

JJZolx's earlier posting in this thread hasn't really been discussed.


I agree with Jim - I don't understand the philosophy behind
constraining the display and functionality of a desktop application to
that of a remote control interface with a ~1 inch display, and waste
the opportunity to use the functionality of a PC.

Why not aim to use the full screen real estate available on a laptop or
desktop to make access, display and manipulation of a music library
easier and more functional. Instead of replicating a remote control,
why not provide the library display and functionality of a MediaMonkey
or even Moose??

Alternatively, why not add SqueezePlay's player functions to
SqueezeCenter to operate in the background, to play from the desktop as
well as remote players? At least SC has a rudimentary library display.


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rtitmuss
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Hopscotch;355887 Wrote:
> I agree with Jim - I don't understand the philosophy behind constraining
> the display and functionality of a desktop application to that of a
> remote control interface with a ~1 inch display, and waste the
> opportunity to use the functionality of a PC.

You need to switch to the Desktop skin. At the moment you can do that
in 'Settings > Select Skin'. Tom is working on making this the default
on the desktop.

Also consider that SqueezePlay is still very much work-in-progress,
especially with skins. What SqueezePlay does share in common with the
Controller is the same application code, so you can expect to find the
same features supported on both.

Richard


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andynormancx
2008-10-26 23:17:18 UTC
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lrossouw;353764 Wrote:
>
> SqueezePlay could however act more like a PC app, for example allowing
> use of the keyboard when browsing music (e.g. pressing u takes you to
> the first artist starting with u or u2 if you are me). Also search by
> typing in. Using the scrolly text input stuff seems a bit silly if you
> have a keyboard.
I can agree with all that, it would be a little silly if it didn't go
on to take advantage of the benefits of having a fully keyboard
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andynormancx
2008-10-26 23:28:17 UTC
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It is worth pointing out that there already is some use of the keyboard
in SP that you don't have on the SBC. For example in Music
Library->Search you get to make full use of the keyboard rather than
having to use the SBC "input" mechanism.


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ant.perry
2008-10-27 03:34:58 UTC
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andynormancx;353773 Wrote:
> It is worth pointing out that there already is some use of the keyboard
> in SP that you don't have on the SBC. For example in Music
> Library->Search you get to make full use of the keyboard rather than
> having to use the SBC "input" mechanism.
I really only get the ENTER key and the cursor keys. The rest do not
seem to work for me. Any thoughts?

squeezecenter is 7.3 - 23662
squeezeplay is 7.0.1r1

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2008-10-27 09:34:27 UTC
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Is it possible to run squeezeplay headless, or is this something thats
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andynormancx
2008-10-27 09:40:50 UTC
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ant.perry;353790 Wrote:
> I really only get the ENTER key and the cursor keys. The rest do not
> seem to work for me. Any thoughts?
>
What even in the search screen ? Many of the keys listed on the wiki
article for SqueezePlay don't work at the moment.

Don't "P" and "A" work for you to play or add a track/album ?


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ant.perry
2008-10-27 10:42:20 UTC
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andynormancx;353838 Wrote:
> What even in the search screen ? Many of the keys listed on the wiki
> article for SqueezePlay don't work at the moment.
>
> Don't "P" and "A" work for you to play or add a track/album ?

Not for me ... P and A don't seem to work. Cursor keys are okay, as is
[ENTER]. Wonder if it is anything to do with XP Pro or FreeNAS?

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andynormancx
2008-10-27 10:55:32 UTC
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ant.perry;353850 Wrote:
> Wonder if it is anything to do with XP Pro or FreeNAS?
>
I am running XP Pro as well. Hard to see how it could be anything to do
with FreeNAS. I am running the SqueezePlay build from the 26th
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bonze
2008-10-27 12:50:09 UTC
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'P' & 'A' not working here either.
Downloaded from today - 27th Oct.

What is the release number we should be quoting for SqueezePlay beta?
On the advanced screen it always says 7.3r0.
Should it be as for the MAC OS? 3188M ?


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MeSue
2008-10-27 14:01:04 UTC
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I don't have SC 7.3 installed, but a few weeks ago I installed
SqueezePlay to have a peek. One day I was messing around with
SqueezePlay, while at the same time, playing music on my computer
through J River Media Center. I have one of those keyboards with
built-in media keys, and when I suddenly heard music playing on one of
the Squeezeboxes in another room, I realized SqueezePlay was responding
to the media keys on my keyboard to control the SB. I didn't do anything
to set this up... it just worked. I found that a bit surprising.


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awy
2008-10-27 14:08:07 UTC
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Good surprising or bad surprising?


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2008-10-27 14:43:29 UTC
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awy;353897 Wrote:
> Good surprising or bad surprising?

Just unexpected, really. Whether it is good or bad would depend on the
situation, I guess. If I was using SqueezePlay as a player on my PC, it
would probably be good. But having the media keys controlling both my PC
music player and a Boom in another room was disconcerting at first. I
kept thinking I was hearing something, so I'd pause my music on the PC,
and what I thought I was hearing would stop... so it took a little while
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jsturtevant
2008-10-28 14:05:16 UTC
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i think i understand squeezeplay is a possible replacement for
softsqueeze... i see softsqueeze as a controller and player to play
audio on my PC.

squeeze play only appears to be a controller (or i'm missing
something)... is there an alternate player that can be used with
squeezeplay to play on my PC?

thanks, i find i get tired of telling EVERYONE I meet how great DUET
is...


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bonze
2008-10-28 15:40:19 UTC
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jsturtevant;354237 Wrote:
> i think i understand squeezeplay is a possible replacement for
> softsqueeze... i see softsqueeze as a controller and player to play
> audio on my PC.
>
> squeeze play only appears to be a controller (or i'm missing
> something)... is there an alternate player that can be used with
> squeezeplay to play on my PC?
> SqueezePlay will also play the music - although it is still in beta at
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mrfantasy
2008-10-28 17:39:00 UTC
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The latest SqueezePlay betas actually have a real setting for audio
playback and seem to work quite a bit better. The player is more
"permanent"--although I've had strange behavior where it might take a
minute or two for SqueezeCenter to see the player, and for the
SqueezePlay player to be controllable through the SqueezePlay
interface.

I also enjoy the play controls on the latest desktop skin.

SqueezePlay is already more stable for me in remote listening than
SoftSqueeze had gotten--the latter was stopping mid-song a lot, and
usually needed to be restarted to get it playing. With SqueezePlay,
I've had a few stutters--and jumps after coming back from a paused song
that's been paused for a long time (say, lunch) but overall it's been
rock solid. And cover art is quite nice too.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 14:15:38 UTC
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Hi,

In article <mrfantasy.3i04sn1225215602-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i04sn1225215602-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> SqueezePlay is already more stable for me in remote listening than
> SoftSqueeze had gotten

I'm yet to have any success in getting SqueezePlay to work as a player from
work (with my server on a Linux box at home). SoftSqueeze works flawlessly
using SqueezePlay as the 'control' app in this configuration, but I just
can't get SqueezePlay to work as a player.

I've also found that the last build I tried (a day or two ago) had the
problem where a lot of the keys didn't work (P, A and the + and - keys are
the ones I use most).

Any hints greatly appreciated. Any extra firewall ports I need to open?

Andy
mrfantasy
2008-10-29 14:32:44 UTC
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adhawkins;354579 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <mrfantasy.3i04sn1225215602 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i04sn1225215602 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > SqueezePlay is already more stable for me in remote listening than
> > SoftSqueeze had gotten
>
> I'm yet to have any success in getting SqueezePlay to work as a player
> from
> work (with my server on a Linux box at home). SoftSqueeze works
> flawlessly
> using SqueezePlay as the 'control' app in this configuration, but I
> just
> can't get SqueezePlay to work as a player.
>
> I've also found that the last build I tried (a day or two ago) had the
> problem where a lot of the keys didn't work (P, A and the + and - keys
> are
> the ones I use most).
>
> Any hints greatly appreciated. Any extra firewall ports I need to
> open?
>
> Andy

If SoftSqueeze works, you shouldn't need any other firewall ports (just
9000 and 3483--but make sure 3483 is UDP and TCP. TCP only will work
with SoftSqueeze but not Squeezeplay.)

I had a problem in Vista with keyboard shortcuts if you didn't run
SqueezePlay as administrator. You might also have the problem in XP,
which I assume you're running at work. This happened even though I'm
an administrator on my desktop.

Also, when you install a new build, make sure you not only uninstall
the old one but check for files in c:\Program Files\SqueezePlay. I had
a bunch of lua files left behind, and it seems if those are inconsistent
things don't work, notably audio playback.

Also, perhaps unrelated, I had my home IP address change, and I had to
reenter it in SqueezePlay, but to get it to actually change it, I had
to remove all the application files as above. It'd be nice if you
could identify a player by DNS name (I have a dynamic DNS host set up
for my home address)

Selecting audio playback is now done in Settings/Advanced/Audio
Playback/Enable Playback (BETA).

Hope something here helps. I'm guessing you either have the UDP port
issue or the old install conflict thing going on, since I've seen
similar symptoms due to those issues.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 15:03:49 UTC
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Hi,

In article <mrfantasy.3i1qwb1225290902-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i1qwb1225290902-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> If SoftSqueeze works, you shouldn't need any other firewall ports (just
> 9000 and 3483--but make sure 3483 is UDP and TCP. TCP only will work
> with SoftSqueeze but not Squeezeplay.)

Definitely have UDP open too:

gently:~# iptables -L -v -n | grep 3483
0 0 ACCEPT tcp -- eth0 * 158.152.93.221
0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3483
4269 205K ACCEPT tcp -- eth0 * 80.177.138.64/29
0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3483
0 0 ACCEPT udp -- eth0 * 158.152.93.221
0.0.0.0/0 udp dpt:3483
6 330 ACCEPT udp -- eth0 * 80.177.138.64/29
0.0.0.0/0 udp dpt:3483

I'm connecting from 80.177.138.66, which is within the 80.177.138.64/29
range.

> I had a problem in Vista with keyboard shortcuts if you didn't run
> SqueezePlay as administrator. You might also have the problem in XP,
> which I assume you're running at work. This happened even though I'm
> an administrator on my desktop.

Possibly. It's annoying if the 'A' shortcut doesn't work, and the volume
too, as there's no other way to access those features without the hotkeys.

> Also, when you install a new build, make sure you not only uninstall
> the old one but check for files in c:\Program Files\SqueezePlay. I had
> a bunch of lua files left behind, and it seems if those are inconsistent
> things don't work, notably audio playback.

Ok. Just trying now. Here's what I did:

1. Shutdown SoftSqueeze
2. Shutdown SqueezePlay
3. Uninstall SqueezePlay
4. Clear out the install folder (there were a few 'settings.lua' files, and
the log files in the top directory)
5. Download the latest SqueezePlay (dated 29th Oct, 01:07)
6. Install this
7. Run it
8. Hold down 'left cursor' to get to the top menu
9. Go to 'Settings->Music Source->Other server'
10. Enter my IP address
11. It goes back to the 'Music Source' menu, with the name of my server in
there
12. Go to this server, and use the right cursor to select it. All I get is
the noise that implies that I'm doing something wrong. I've got
further than this before though I'm sure.
13. Now, if I go up to the top and do 'Select player' all I get is the SB2
in my house
14. Go into 'Settings->Advanced->Audio Playback' and turn it on.
15. Back to the top level and into 'Choose Player'. Still only see the SB2
in my house. No evidence through my firewall logs of any packets
being dropped.

Any thoughts? It's connected to the server enough to be able to browse my
music. Could it be because the server already knows about the instance of
SoftSqueeze in the same remote location?

Thanks

Andy
mrfantasy
2008-10-30 03:29:21 UTC
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adhawkins;354597 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <mrfantasy.3i1qwb1225290902 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i1qwb1225290902 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > If SoftSqueeze works, you shouldn't need any other firewall ports
> (just
> > 9000 and 3483--but make sure 3483 is UDP and TCP. TCP only will
> work
> > with SoftSqueeze but not Squeezeplay.)
>
> Definitely have UDP open too:
>
> gently:~# iptables -L -v -n | grep 3483
> 0 0 ACCEPT tcp -- eth0 * 158.152.93.221
> 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3483
> 4269 205K ACCEPT tcp -- eth0 * 80.177.138.64/29
> 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:3483
> 0 0 ACCEPT udp -- eth0 * 158.152.93.221
> 0.0.0.0/0 udp dpt:3483
> 6 330 ACCEPT udp -- eth0 * 80.177.138.64/29
> 0.0.0.0/0 udp dpt:3483
>
> I'm connecting from 80.177.138.66, which is within the
> 80.177.138.64/29
> range.
>
> > I had a problem in Vista with keyboard shortcuts if you didn't run
> > SqueezePlay as administrator. You might also have the problem in
> XP,
> > which I assume you're running at work. This happened even though
> I'm
> > an administrator on my desktop.
>
> Possibly. It's annoying if the 'A' shortcut doesn't work, and the
> volume
> too, as there's no other way to access those features without the
> hotkeys.
>
> > Also, when you install a new build, make sure you not only uninstall
> > the old one but check for files in c:\Program Files\SqueezePlay. I
> had
> > a bunch of lua files left behind, and it seems if those are
> inconsistent
> > things don't work, notably audio playback.
>
> Ok. Just trying now. Here's what I did:
>
> 1. Shutdown SoftSqueeze
> 2. Shutdown SqueezePlay
> 3. Uninstall SqueezePlay
> 4. Clear out the install folder (there were a few 'settings.lua' files,
> and
> the log files in the top directory)
> 5. Download the latest SqueezePlay (dated 29th Oct, 01:07)
> 6. Install this
> 7. Run it
> 8. Hold down 'left cursor' to get to the top menu
> 9. Go to 'Settings->Music Source->Other server'
> 10. Enter my IP address
> 11. It goes back to the 'Music Source' menu, with the name of my server
> in
> there
> 12. Go to this server, and use the right cursor to select it. All I get
> is
> the noise that implies that I'm doing something wrong. I've got
> further than this before though I'm sure.
> 13. Now, if I go up to the top and do 'Select player' all I get is the
> SB2
> in my house
> 14. Go into 'Settings->Advanced->Audio Playback' and turn it on.
> 15. Back to the top level and into 'Choose Player'. Still only see the
> SB2
> in my house. No evidence through my firewall logs of any packets
> being dropped.
>
> Any thoughts? It's connected to the server enough to be able to browse
> my
> music. Could it be because the server already knows about the instance
> of
> SoftSqueeze in the same remote location?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy

Are those firewall rules on the SqueezeCenter computer or on your
actual Internet gateway? Or is your SqueezeCenter computer also your
home firewall?

I've seen the audio playback feature still take a few tries to get
going--as in, enable the player, exit and restart SqueezePlay. Perhaps
more than once. There's some weird state persistence that takes a few
restarts to fully resolve. I assume it's an interaction not just on
the client side but the server state.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-30 09:41:05 UTC
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Hi,

In article <mrfantasy.3i2qrz1225337401-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i2qrz1225337401-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Are those firewall rules on the SqueezeCenter computer or on your
> actual Internet gateway? Or is your SqueezeCenter computer also your
> home firewall?

The SqueezeCenter software is installed on the firewall.

> I've seen the audio playback feature still take a few tries to get
> going--as in, enable the player, exit and restart SqueezePlay. Perhaps
> more than once. There's some weird state persistence that takes a few
> restarts to fully resolve. I assume it's an interaction not just on
> the client side but the server state.

Ok, I'll give that a go.

One other thought occurs, is it 7.3 (on the Server side) only? I'm still on
the 7.2 branch currently.

Andy
Andy Hawkins
2008-10-30 10:15:43 UTC
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Hi,

In article <mrfantasy.3i2qrz1225337401-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
mrfantasy<mrfantasy.3i2qrz1225337401-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I've seen the audio playback feature still take a few tries to get
> going--as in, enable the player, exit and restart SqueezePlay.

Ok, I've now got a 'SqueezePlay' item listed in the players. However, if I
try to select this and go to my server, it tries to connect for a while,
then comes up with 'Problem Connecting'.

Around the time it gives up, my firewall logs the following packet:

Oct 30 10:14:11 gently kernel: FWIn: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=82.5.225.118
DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=3483 DPT=3483 LEN=24

This appears to be a UDP broadcast going out from port 3483 on eth0 (the
interface that connects to my cable modem). I can't see this ever working.
Does SqueezePlay rely on this?

Again, could it be because I'm on 7.2 and not 7.3?

Andy
rtitmuss
2008-10-30 12:16:12 UTC
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adhawkins;354882 Wrote:
> This appears to be a UDP broadcast going out from port 3483 on eth0 (the
> interface that connects to my cable modem). I can't see this ever
> working. Does SqueezePlay rely on this?
>

If you specify the server using "Other Server" then it may work, but
this is not something that has been tested yet. Otherwise the udp
broadcast is important for player discovery.

adhawkins;354882 Wrote:
> Again, could it be because I'm on 7.2 and not 7.3

I think you need 7.3 for squeezeplay audio playback to work correctly.

Richard


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-30 13:57:41 UTC
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Hi,

In article <rtitmuss.3i3fbb1225369201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
rtitmuss<rtitmuss.3i3fbb1225369201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I think you need 7.3 for squeezeplay audio playback to work correctly.

Ok. Sounds like that should be my next step then.

What's the current estimate for a release of 7.3? While I like new bells and
whistles, at the end of the day I need a relatively stable and working
SqueezeCentre so that my wife doesn't notice the change!

Andy
maggior
2008-10-30 19:40:17 UTC
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adhawkins;354943 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <rtitmuss.3i3fbb1225369201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> rtitmuss<rtitmuss.3i3fbb1225369201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > I think you need 7.3 for squeezeplay audio playback to work
> correctly.
>
> Ok. Sounds like that should be my next step then.
>
> What's the current estimate for a release of 7.3? While I like new
> bells and
> whistles, at the end of the day I need a relatively stable and working
> SqueezeCentre so that my wife doesn't notice the change!
>
> Andy

Based on this post:http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54421
it looks like the first week of December is the current target.

I'm in a similar boat since my whole family uses the SB. As time
allows, I may load up 7.3 on a spare system I have running. Otherwise
I'll wait until 7.3 is officially released and let the dust settle for
a week or so.


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mrfantasy
2008-10-30 19:55:29 UTC
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maggior;355043 Wrote:
> Based on this post:http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54421
> it looks like the first week of December is the current target.
>
> I'm in a similar boat since my whole family uses the SB. As time
> allows, I may load up 7.3 on a spare system I have running. Otherwise
> I'll wait until 7.3 is officially released and let the dust settle for
> a week or so.

Honestly, I've been running 7.3 for nearly a month now, and it's fine
for day-to-day use with my SB2. The biggest issue was the broken
scanner but that doesn't affect people just using the player, and it's
fixed now anyway. If there ever were a problem I'd just roll back to
the previous nightly.


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dwilliams01
2008-10-31 13:39:47 UTC
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rtitmuss;354906 Wrote:
> If you specify the server using "Other Server" then it may work, but
> this is not something that has been tested yet. Otherwise the udp
> broadcast is important for player discovery.
>
>
>
> I think you need 7.3 for squeezeplay audio playback to work correctly.
>
> Richard

I've tested "Other Server" and it doesn't work. At least, when remote.
A manually keyed in IP address of 127.0.0.1 (to go through ssh) just
bounces the menu a bit and sits there.

Should we be filing bugs for SqueezePlay yet or is it still too early?


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dean blackketter
2008-10-31 15:22:08 UTC
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 6:39 AM, dwilliams01 wrote:
> Should we be filing bugs for SqueezePlay yet or is it still too early?

Yes, please!
Planktonic
2008-10-29 14:44:20 UTC
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adhawkins;354579 Wrote:
>
>
> I've also found that the last build I tried (a day or two ago) had the
> problem where a lot of the keys didn't work (P, A and the + and - keys
> are
> the ones I use most).
>
> Andy

For the keys issue: What OS are you running SP on? I have been working
in that area of the code but I haven't seen any issues (on Mac).

Some additional shortcuts have been added but all the old ones should
work (p,a etc...)

The latest keyboard shortcuts for SqueezePlay can be found at:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay


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2008-10-29 15:09:36 UTC
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Keyboard shortcuts are case-sensitive, but perhaps shouldn't be, so that
can be another thing to look for if the shortcuts don't work.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 17:10:33 UTC
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Hi.

In article <Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Keyboard shortcuts are case-sensitive, but perhaps shouldn't be, so that
> can be another thing to look for if the shortcuts don't work.

Should they be upper or lower case? I don't have CAPS lock on.

Andy
Planktonic
2008-10-29 17:40:29 UTC
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adhawkins;354636 Wrote:
> Hi.
>
> In article <Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> Planktonic<Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > Keyboard shortcuts are case-sensitive, but perhaps shouldn't be, so
> that
> > can be another thing to look for if the shortcuts don't work.
>
> Should they be upper or lower case? I don't have CAPS lock on.
>
> Andy

lower case


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Planktonic
2008-10-29 17:59:51 UTC
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adhawkins;354636 Wrote:
> Hi.
>
> In article <Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> Planktonic<Planktonic.3i1sin1225293002 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > Keyboard shortcuts are case-sensitive, but perhaps shouldn't be, so
> that
> > can be another thing to look for if the shortcuts don't work.
>
> Should they be upper or lower case? I don't have CAPS lock on.
>
> Andy
Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the next
nightly build.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 23:54:51 UTC
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Hi,

In article <Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the next
> nightly build.

I'll try to remember to give it a go tomorrow.

Andy
bonze
2008-10-30 16:23:10 UTC
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Planktonic;354654 Wrote:
> Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the next
> nightly build.Does SqueezePlay have a version number?
Or do we just assume that every day is a new build. :)


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2008-10-30 16:50:42 UTC
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bonze;354975 Wrote:
> Does SqueezePlay have a version number?
> Or do we just assume that every day is a new build. :)

on squeezeplay, go to:
Settings->Advanced->About

version number is reported right at the top

cheers,
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2008-10-30 21:20:56 UTC
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bklaas;354985 Wrote:
> on squeezeplay, go to:
> Settings->Advanced->About
>
> version number is reported right at the top
>
> cheers,
> #!/ben
It always says 7.3.r0 - is there not an incremental number like SC7.3 ?


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tamanaco
2008-10-30 22:24:22 UTC
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I just noticed that in the latest index page the OSX disk images
"appear" to have a build number associated with the file names. The
Windows version has no number associated with it, but it would be nice
to have one. I'm almost sure that 7.3r0 is currently the latest
version, but from the index page one can't tell if it is the latest
build.

In the future release an "Always Stay on Top" and a "Dock on this or
that corner" options for SqueezePlay would also be nice.


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Relwell
2008-10-30 23:57:58 UTC
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I am having an interesting issue with SqueezePlay. It is occurring with
todays build for both the server and SqueezePlay (both XP). If I play
FLAC files it will play or a random number of songs (say 3 to 7) before
briefly flashing up a a message at the bottom that say re-buffering. The
message goes away, the time counter continues to run up a bit and then
falls back over and over and no audio is produced. If I skip to the
next song (or start the current one over again) it will play again for
while then the same thing. I set bit rate limiting to 128 and it has
run all day with no issues.

This is all hard wired on a switched 100Mbit network. It is
reproducible by turning off the bit rate limiting.

Richard.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-30 17:34:33 UTC
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Hi,

In article <Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the next
> nightly build.

As of now, there's no new SqueezePlay build in

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/latest/7.3/

Andy
Planktonic
2008-10-31 13:39:37 UTC
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adhawkins;355002 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> Planktonic<Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the
> next
> > nightly build.
>
> As of now, there's no new SqueezePlay build in
>
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/latest/7.3/
>
> Andy
We've had some build system issues. Whenever they are resolved
(hopefully today) I'll kick off a nightly build.


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Planktonic
2008-10-31 14:12:10 UTC
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Planktonic;355287 Wrote:
> We've had some build system issues. Whenever they are resolved
> (hopefully today) I'll kick off a nightly build.
New nightlies for Mac and Windows are now up.
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/latest/7.3/


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-31 15:53:19 UTC
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Hi,

In article <Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the next
> nightly build.

Just downloaded today (date on the file is 31-Oct-2008 07:01) and still no
joy with keyboard controls. Cursors work, but 'P', 'A', '-' and '+' don't.
Windows XP Pro, all service packs and security updates applied. Logged in as
a user that is in the Administrators group

Andy
Planktonic
2008-10-31 17:44:23 UTC
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adhawkins;355336 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In article <Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>,
> Planktonic<Planktonic.3i20dz1225303201 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > Please let me know if you continue to have key problems using the
> next
> > nightly build.
>
> Just downloaded today (date on the file is 31-Oct-2008 07:01) and still
> no
> joy with keyboard controls. Cursors work, but 'P', 'A', '-' and '+'
> don't.
> Windows XP Pro, all service packs and security updates applied. Logged
> in as
> a user that is in the Administrators group
>
> Andy
Bummer. Can you confirm whether any of the shortcut keys work (like
SPACE, z, b) and do the keys work for inputting text in a text input
screen (such as search for artists)?

Also, I think you said that keys had previously worked for you? If you
could try the earlier images and find out when it worked that would help
pinpoint the problem. See: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ for
old versions. I think it would be safest to do a clean install
(uninstall and then remove the SqueezePlay dir under <program files>.


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ant.perry
2008-11-01 12:27:50 UTC
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Planktonic;355359 Wrote:
> Bummer. Can you confirm whether any of the shortcut keys work (like
> SPACE, z, b) and do the keys work for inputting text in a text input
> screen (such as search for artists)?
>
Sadly - no good for me.
The [Enter] key is fine, as are the cursor keys, but SPACE, Z, z, B, b
don't work when searching for artists (or at any other time). They
don't work on the test menu input either.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-11-01 15:30:55 UTC
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Hi,

In article <Planktonic.3i5p0z1225475101-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i5p0z1225475101-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Bummer. Can you confirm whether any of the shortcut keys work (like
> SPACE, z, b) and do the keys work for inputting text in a text input
> screen (such as search for artists)?

What do 'z' and 'b' do? I know space toggles between pause and play. I'm
away from work for a week, will try either at home or when I go back.

> Also, I think you said that keys had previously worked for you? If you
> could try the earlier images and find out when it worked that would help
> pinpoint the problem. See: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ for
> old versions. I think it would be safest to do a clean install
> (uninstall and then remove the SqueezePlay dir under <program files>.

Again, I'm not at work so will have to see whether I can do this. Might be
able to do it when I get home from our little break on Tuesday.

Andy
Planktonic
2008-11-01 19:51:00 UTC
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I found that having NUM LOCK on would cause the "a, p, SPACE" keyboard
issue. I'll put in a fix on Monday, so for now, make sure to have NUM
LOCK off...


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ant.perry
2008-11-01 21:29:40 UTC
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Planktonic;355738 Wrote:
> I found that having NUM LOCK on would cause the "a, p, SPACE" keyboard
> issue. I'll put in a fix on Monday, so for now, make sure to have NUM
> LOCK off...

Aha - well I have been using a laptop which has no NUMLOCK key. I
plugged in an external keyboard, turned off the NUMLOCK key and
unplugged it. Now all the keys work. Hurrah


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Skunk
2008-11-02 01:39:40 UTC
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Ahh, Numlock. Shortcuts work for me now too.

I noticed there are skip/prev./pause controls in the now playing
screensaver when using desktop skin, but when you mouse over the window
it come out of ss mode, making them inaccessable.


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mrfantasy
2008-11-03 16:06:51 UTC
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Planktonic;355738 Wrote:
> I found that having NUM LOCK on would cause the "a, p, SPACE" keyboard
> issue. I'll put in a fix on Monday, so for now, make sure to have NUM
> LOCK off...

The November 3rd build still has the num lock dependency. I assume
that when you said "put in a fix on Monday" that it will show up on the
Tuesday nightly?


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Planktonic
2008-11-03 16:39:56 UTC
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mrfantasy;356297 Wrote:
> The November 3rd build still has the num lock dependency. I assume that
> when you said "put in a fix on Monday" that it will show up on the
> Tuesday nightly?

That's correct.


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mrfantasy
2008-11-04 20:08:28 UTC
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Yea! Keyboard commands work now regardless of the Num Lock state.

I get a very small pause in the audio, 10 seconds before the end of a
song This is pretty consistent when I'm listening to music. It's not
horrible, but it is noticeable. It's been like that for a while, with
the latest nightlies. I don't think it happens with my hardware
player. Any ideas?


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Tzvi
2008-11-04 22:14:20 UTC
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I am using Squeezeplay to listen to music and I want to use the web
interface to control the volume, yet no matter what I set it to the
volume of Squeezeplay is always the same. I checked the settings in
SqueezeCenter and it is set to "Volume controls adjust outputs", but it
doesn't have any effect.

Can Squeezeplay's volume be conrtolled via the web interface?

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mrfantasy
2008-11-05 15:19:04 UTC
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I don't think that part of the code works yet. Hopefully soon.

Tzvi;356782 Wrote:
> I am using Squeezeplay to listen to music and I want to use the web
> interface to control the volume, yet no matter what I set it to the
> volume of Squeezeplay is always the same. I checked the settings in
> SqueezeCenter and it is set to "Volume controls adjust outputs", but it
> doesn't have any effect.
>
> Can Squeezeplay's volume be conrtolled via the web interface?
>
> --Tzvi


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awy
2008-11-06 08:59:11 UTC
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mrfantasy;356737 Wrote:
>
> I get a very small pause in the audio, 10 seconds before the end of a
> song This is pretty consistent when I'm listening to music. It's not
> horrible, but it is noticeable. It's been like that for a while, with
> the latest nightlies. I don't think it happens with my hardware
> player. Any ideas?

10 seconds before the end of a track is when the server starts
streaming the next track. It may be that the player is getting starved
of CPU by the SC activity (assuming that SC and SP are running on the
same system). The final audio output buffer in SP is not very large (to
keep command and sound-effect latency down). You could try increasing
the priority of the SP process - using *nice* on *nix systems.


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2008-11-13 05:13:31 UTC
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awy;357224 Wrote:
> 10 seconds before the end of a track is when the server starts streaming
> the next track. It may be that the player is getting starved of CPU by
> the SC activity (assuming that SC and SP are running on the same
> system). The final audio output buffer in SP is not very large (to keep
> command and sound-effect latency down). You could try increasing the
> priority of the SP process - using *nice* on *nix systems.

I'm using today's builds for SP and SqueezeCenter (Version: 7.3 - 23911
@ Wed Nov 12) and the sound blip is still there. SqueezePlay is running
on a desktop computer connected to the server router via a wireless
card, both systems are using XP, SP3. Wireless connection reports 54
Mbps and excellent signal strength. What I've noticed: when playing an
album the transfer rate to the PC averages 1 Mbps(FLAC) for all tracks.
It drops to 0 at about 37 seconds from the end of a track. At 10
seconds remaining there is a spike to 10 Mbps and this is when the
sound cuts out briefly. Network transfer quickly goes back to 1 Mbps.
Both the server and client PC show no more than 15% CPU utilization
throughout.

I've also not been able to stream more than four or five tracks without
SqueezePlay cutting out. A popup message comes up (too brief to read
the entire message, but it's something about re-buffering). Is there a
log file I can check or enable for SqeezePlay?


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2008-11-14 04:30:41 UTC
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Echo;359442 Wrote:
> ...the sound blip is still there... At 10 seconds remaining there is a
> spike to 10 Mbps and this is when the sound cuts out briefly. Network
> transfer quickly goes back to 1 Mbps... I've also not been able to
> stream more than four or five tracks without SqueezePlay cutting out.
> A popup message comes up (too brief to read the entire message, but
> it's something about re-buffering)...

I sure hope these problems can get fixed by the post-beta release of
SqueezePlay - I have a lot of hope for this little app...


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f948lan
2008-11-18 17:25:53 UTC
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Is it meant to start in the language selection every time I run it?
I have to hold the left arrow for a few seconds then go to choose
player. Not a problem for me, but more tricky for others in the
household - especially trying to win the Mrs over to buying a couple
more SB's.

I'm running on Linux (Gentoo), all other prefs seem to be saved, it
even starts with the right wallpaper for the last player, last skin
etc.

Any tips?

Also, is there a command line option to force it to start maximized? If
I maximize it in the window manager, then turn on full screen mode in
SELECT_SKIN it looks good, but I don't run a full window manager on my
myth box - I just want it to start the right size.

Thanks for the help.


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Planktonic
2008-11-18 19:59:38 UTC
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f948lan;361139 Wrote:
> Is it meant to start in the language selection every time I run it?
> I have to hold the left arrow for a few seconds then go to choose
> player. Not a problem for me, but more tricky for others in the
> household - especially trying to win the Mrs over to buying a couple
> more SB's.
>
> I'm running on Linux (Gentoo), all other prefs seem to be saved, it
> even starts with the right wallpaper for the last player, last skin
> etc.
>
> Any tips?
>
> Also, is there a command line option to force it to start maximized? If
> I maximize it in the window manager, then turn on full screen mode in
> SELECT_SKIN it looks good, but I don't run a full window manager on my
> myth box - I just want it to start the right size.
>
> Thanks for the help.

The "have to do language each time" is not meant to be the behavior.
That should only happen until you have completed a first time setup.
Perhaps setup was never completed. Recently changes went out that would
cause a full reset to happen if you had been using earlier betas, which
forces you to complete setup again. If you haven't already, try
selecting the language then, rather than doing Left Hold, follow the
next step which should be select player. After selecting a player, it
should give a setup complete message, something like: "That's it".
Then you should no longer see the language selection. Let us know if
that works. Even if this fixes your issue, it sounds like an area for
improvement on our part.

Regarding the fullscreen, I made a new bug related to the issue:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10057
In a nutshell, command line fullscreen will be supported soon.


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2008-11-19 01:19:17 UTC
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Well, I think you are right that I'm not finishing the setup, but I
can't figure out how to. From language it goes to the "Welcome, lets
get started by getting you connected to your network and music" screen
asking me to press the 'Center button' however none of the keys on my
keyboard will allow me to move forward. The only thing that works is
back.

It has remembered my server, and initially shows the wallpaper of the
last player I used.

I have tried deleting the settings folder under my home directory it
creates but it seems to make no difference, it still remembers my
server and behaves the same.

I had it working on one of the earlier releases, so could there be a
second config file somewhere I need to delete to clean up?

Thanks for all your efforts - its a great product.


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bonze
2008-11-19 14:45:24 UTC
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I know there was an announcement somewhere recently, but where are the
logs being stored now?
I haven't been able to get SqueezePlay to connect recently.
I get as far as the spinny.


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2008-11-19 15:07:12 UTC
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bonze;361443 Wrote:
> I know there was an announcement somewhere recently, but where are the
> logs being stored now?
> I haven't been able to get SqueezePlay to connect recently.
> I get as far as the spinny.
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay#SqueezePlay_OS-specific_Information


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2008-11-19 21:03:18 UTC
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Thanks for the wiki.

Installing the version from 2008-11-18
I get the spinny and 'Connecting to', but it never connects.

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2008-11-20 00:14:48 UTC
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Why is there no SqueezePlay available for PC in the nightlies? I only
see SqueezePlay for Mac.


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2008-11-21 13:11:13 UTC
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Not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but anyway... is it
possible to run Squeezeplay as a service (headless)? If not, is it
planned. I will never want to use Squeezeplays UI on my PC, even with
the desktop skin, the value for me would be being able to to control my
PC with the Controller.


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MeSue
2008-11-21 14:51:20 UTC
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autopilot;362162 Wrote:
> Not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but anyway... is it
> possible to run Squeezeplay as a service (headless)? If not, is it
> planned. I will never want to use Squeezeplays UI on my PC, even with
> the desktop skin, the value for me would be being able to to control my
> PC with the Controller.

SqueezeSlave does that already.
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeSlave


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autopilot
2008-11-21 15:01:09 UTC
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MeSue;362202 Wrote:
> SqueezeSlave does that already.
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeSlave

...but with about 10% of the functionality and it's effectively
abandon-ware. Squeezeplay is the new kid, and thats where the
development is. Plus, Squeezeplay will sync with other players,
supports more formats and functionality like Last.FM etc etc.


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MeSue
2008-11-21 15:37:56 UTC
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autopilot;362206 Wrote:
> ...but with about 10% of the functionality and it's effectively
> abandon-ware. Squeezeplay is the new kid, and thats where the
> development is. Plus, Squeezeplay will sync with other players,
> supports more formats and functionality like Last.FM etc etc.

Oh, I didn't realize there were limitations to SqueezeSlave. I only
installed it for the first time a couple weeks ago and used it for a
couple of hours while I was doing some mass tagging on my PC. Have not
touched it since.


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ralphy
2008-11-22 12:03:46 UTC
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autopilot;362206 Wrote:
> ...but with about 10% of the functionality and it's effectively
> abandon-ware. Squeezeplay is the new kid, and thats where the
> development is. Plus, Squeezeplay will sync with other players,
> supports more formats and functionality like Last.FM etc etc.

Well, you haven't visited the squeezeslave site lately.

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105169&package_id=176494

As you'll see squeezeslave development is alive and well.

There have been over 1,000 downloads of version 0.8 since I released it
a month ago.

As of last week squeezeslave now supports alsa on linux and text mode
display like the slimp3 and also remotes via lirc and an external lcd
display.

Ralphy


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autopilot
2008-11-22 12:22:52 UTC
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Excellent. sorry i seem to have been mistaken. Im sure last time i
looked i had not been updated for a very long time and did not support
a number of audio formats or syncing. I will take a look when i get
home. Many thanks.


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NFLnut
2008-11-22 18:47:47 UTC
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So .. why is there no SqueezePlay for PC in the nightlies?


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Echo
2008-11-23 06:47:59 UTC
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NFLnut;362564 Wrote:
> So .. why is there no SqueezePlay for PC in the nightlies?

Just a guess, but probably a new build wasn't ready in time. It's a
beta program and gaps are to be expected.


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rtitmuss
2008-11-21 23:50:14 UTC
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autopilot;362162 Wrote:
> Not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but anyway... is it
> possible to run Squeezeplay as a service (headless)? If not, is it
> planned. I will never want to use Squeezeplays UI on my PC, even with
> the desktop skin, the value for me would be being able to to control my
> PC with the Controller.

That's been asked for before, and is on the list but right now it's not
a top priority. Patches welcome!

Richard


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Dean L. Surkin
2008-11-22 03:32:54 UTC
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Autopilot:

What functionality is missing from SqueezeSlave? I have two Duet
Receivers, one Duet Controller and I run SqueezeSlave on my Ubuntu
server (in my exercise room with a pair of powered speakers). I haven't
yet noticed a function missing from SqueezeSlave.

--Dean L. Surkin


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Echo
2008-11-09 04:03:20 UTC
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mrfantasy;356737 Wrote:
> Yea! Keyboard commands work now regardless of the Num Lock state.
The volume up (+) command on the numeric keys doesn't work for me,
while the + on the top row (shift and the +/= key) does.
mrfantasy;356737 Wrote:
> I get a very small pause in the audio, 10 seconds before the end of a
> song This is pretty consistent when I'm listening to music.
I have the same issue and have for the past few nightly versions I've
been able to test. Right now I'm using Version: 7.3 - 23837.

I also have the occasional rebuffering message show up on the
SqueezPlay display, after which the sound cuts out. The track
continues play, as indicated by the track progress meter, but without
sound. SqueezePlay and SqueezeCenter are running on separate computers
(both XP, Intel duo and quad core machines, CPU utilization is low).


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c3p0
2008-11-09 12:09:37 UTC
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i can control the volume of the music going through the squeezebox by
the keyboard volume controls on the laptop but i havent been able to
set the attenuation of the volume in the squeezecenter settings (too
loud at same volume setting compered to CD player mya need to by
attenuators)any ideas


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ericj
2008-11-09 17:27:43 UTC
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Squeezeplay 7.3r3309M on Mac OSX 10.5.5 on MacBook. Running most
recent 7.2.1
Starts, here the 'dong' at start, lets me choose my language, shows
the Welcome Screen, but then a return or right arrow key brings me to a
Choose player screen which I cannot advance beyond. Right key produces
a 'error' beep. I can go back to the welcome screen but not advance.
I have tried:
>running as admin (sudo open squeezeplay.app
>adding it to my firewall
Other suggestions?
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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 15:13:26 UTC
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Hi,

In article <Planktonic.3i1rcz1225291502-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
Planktonic<Planktonic.3i1rcz1225291502-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> For the keys issue: What OS are you running SP on? I have been working
> in that area of the code but I haven't seen any issues (on Mac).

Windows XP, all service packs and updates applied. Logged in as a user in
the Administrators group

> Some additional shortcuts have been added but all the old ones should
> work (p,a etc...)

'A' doesn't work for me using the latest version (downloaded today).

Andy
tamanaco
2008-10-25 14:00:34 UTC
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autopilot;353243 Wrote:
> I used Squeezeplay on my PC for the first time today. After playing
> around for a couple of hours i starting to wonder exactly what the
> design brief is here? It's basically just the controller on my PC - but
> why would i want that? It's a great on the SBC, but it's menu structure
> and UI seems really really strange for a desktop app - very clunky,
> partly because it's primary aim is controlling players. That not what i
> want on my PC, i want a player like Softsqueeze is (plus the ability to
> controller players too). So where is this going? I'm finding it very
> strange, it all seems the wrong way around and i just dont get it
> sorry!

If you're looking for a better "desktop" player... Moose is the way to
go.


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JJZolx
2008-10-26 19:51:15 UTC
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autopilot;353243 Wrote:
> I used Squeezeplay on my PC for the first time today. After playing
> around for a couple of hours i starting to wonder exactly what the
> design brief is here? It's basically just the controller on my PC - but
> why would i want that? It's a great on the SBC, but it's menu structure
> and UI seems really really strange for a desktop app - very clunky,
> partly because it's primary aim is controlling players. That not what i
> want on my PC, i want a player like Softsqueeze is (plus the ability to
> controller players too). So where is this going? I'm finding it very
> strange, it all seems the wrong way around and i just dont get it
> sorry!

Yep.




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JJZolx
2008-10-26 22:54:45 UTC
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rtitmuss;353710 Wrote:
> It's still early days for Squeezeplay. I think two things you are
> missing are:
> 1. Switch to the desktop skin

Is there supposed to be something there other than a 2x resize?

> 2. Enable audio playback in Squeezeplay, as you did on the Controller
> itself

There are better players for the PC. Even if this were the best one,
it doesn't explain why anyone would want to use the user interface when
you have the web interface just one click away. Hopefully there will be
a headless mode so that users wanting a PC based player won't need to
have the interface running.


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Andy Hawkins
2008-10-29 14:17:51 UTC
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Hi,

In article <JJZolx.3hwu1n1225061702-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org>,
JJZolx<JJZolx.3hwu1n1225061702-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> There are better players for the PC. Even if this were the best one,
> it doesn't explain why anyone would want to use the user interface when
> you have the web interface just one click away.

I'm a software engineer, and have developed a very 'keyboard centric' way of
working. I try to avoid having to touch the mouse if I can avoid it, it just
slows me down.

With SqueezePlay controlling the SoftSqueeze instance no my PC, it's very
simple to ALT-TAB to SqueezePlay, use the keyboard to navigate and select
some more music, change volume etc. I can't do a lot of that with the
keyboard alone using SoftSqueeze, and virtually none of it using the web
interface.

Andy
lrossouw
2008-10-26 22:37:37 UTC
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Hi

I also don't get any of the keyboard keys to work other than cursors,
space and enter.

Cheers
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